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what are you doing 25.12.03 / emf actions over bush..

mozaz | 22.11.2003 15:59 | Sheffield

it happens here ( http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/281420.html),
just a little more subtle over
here.. but having spent time in northern i during the
late mid 1970s then being involved in the great strike
of 84 i watched what they did to us in northern i,
have done to us in grate strike of 84.. (20 years on
next year)


they gave us the freedom? to protest in london during
bush to give us the illusion we have the right to
protest..

all they're doing is waiting for the right moment..
this is why mass movements are no use..

we need to re-organise into cells of people we know
trust and have worked with for years and fuck shit
from there..

there seems little point in marching in ever
decreasing circles being preached at by the same old
boring whatever group..

now is the time to organise on the lines of the alf /
elf.. cause them economic damages.. with the simple
aim of not hurting/doing damage to animals or humans..


we do not support any harm to human animal life.. any
harm to our mother the earth.. if we are to see the
true emancipation of the people of iraq (and the
world).. then perhaps what happened here in sheffield
on the morning of the 19/20 november.. where it is
alleged upto 8 garages from esso and bp had some form
of damage done to them..

such economic damage is where it is going to cost
those who have helped in the murder of 21 thousand
plus iraqi people this year.. such damage is just the
same as their damage (except we do not harm any form
of life - be it human, animal or the earth) that is
being commited as the bombs fall on the people of iraq
again..

on dec 25th as you eat your chosen dead animal / open
those presents of which no doubt some working class
person will have been exploited to give you the
pleasure of doing so..

you might have ended this week pleased with yourself..
pleased with what might i ask? i estimate since the
formation of the anti war coalition uk wide around 6
million plus has been spent on protest.. what have
those protest done? they have not stopped the 21
thousand plus iraqis who have been killed have they
comrades? they have not eased the pain of the us / uk
families who also have lost loved ones.. because of
this crass immoral war.. they have not ceased the
continued bombing of the people of afganistan, iraq?
not eased the rape torture of the same people..

as you sit down this christmas the prisoners in
guantanamo bay are still being beaten and tortued..
the homeless in london might have tempory shelter but
not the many thousands across the uk.. neither those
living in poverty here in the uk..

i feel the 6 millon plus spent on protest could have
been given to those in real need.. now we can all go
home plan our nice christmas with our loved ones etc..

meantime for some people of this world chritmas is
just another day of the same shit.. this is why i seek
the destruction of civilisation.. why i was not on the
anti war demo last saturday.. and when i did join for
a moment on wed all i witnassed was white middle class
privileged kids with their placards causing more
hassles for the working class of this city with their
sit down protest..

i watched as the police stopped a van and do them for
no tax etc.. this would not have happened if we had
placed our efforts into fucking shit up for those who
are aiding this war such as esso and bp..

the more we move from the mass movement to cells the
more chance we have in fucking shit up big time for
them.. it worked with the anti roads protest.. it
worked with the poll tax.. why do we delude ourseleves
that mass movements work?

is it not time we ceased with feeding our illusions
that mass protest works and dispand the sheffield stwc
and show by example to the rest of the uk?

...off shopping as i can not find my kids brother that
WMD he so desires..

mozaz..

mozaz

Comments

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hello!!! are you there?

22.11.2003 16:55

um...middle class white kids? the iraq/bush protests are the first time I've a sizeable non-white present at demonstrations. As for the effectiveness of such demos, I'm sceptical as well, but they do help to bring people together.
Many people on the march/ trafalgar square do direct action as well - they are not mutually exclusive. And it has to be said, if you worried about middle class, white kids you should avoid the direct action movement.
And as for inconviencing working class people, what do you think direct action does? we close down roads, cause criminal damage, stop working class people from doing their jobs (like stopping deliveries etc.) and what do you think picket lines of working class people did, other than inconvience other working class people.

The esso garage actions you praise are hardly going to make a big difference - and for a start you will have to persuade all those working class people you pretend to represent that they don;'t want to drive cars. get your thinking straight, and come up with something coherent before you submit your thoughts.

chris


Infighting is just what we need...

22.11.2003 17:22

There's no need to be so cynical about the demos...does the fact that I live on the dole make my protest more meaningful than others'? There is room in the protest movement for all different types of action - having spent my childhood terrified of violent protest against British rule in Northern Ireland, I am a committed pacifist. I am entitled to register my displeasure with the British and American governments in a non-violent way and that is what I choose to do. I happen to believe that vandalism is not an appropriate way to express my political beliefs. That also happens to be the majority view in this country. Getting people's backs up - particularly those who hold similar political opinions to you - isn't very clever. Getting people to agree with you and come onboard is alot harder but much more constructive in the long run.

Elaine


a reply..

22.11.2003 17:22

hay brother, i do not pretend to represent the working class and i hope the actions that emf took on esso / bp just cost the companies.. the aim was not to cause any hassles to workers.. i agree direct action can and has an impact upon the working class.. but civilisation is having a grater effect over 12000 plant and animal life are becoming extinct.. the earth, our mother can feel the burden of civilisation and if direct action wakes people from their consumer lifestyles etc and causes them minor inconvenience and stops the damages we are inflictiing on the earth then for me that is a small cost to pay.. far better then losing the earth, our home..

civilisation is not working for the vast majority of those who inhabit this earth.. just so happens those who feel the impact first are the workers ie the working class.. yes there was numbers there on thursday in london.. now think for a moment if all that time, effort and dosh had been re-directed what a better impact that would have been than just a few moments headlines.. under the pavement lies the earth.. beyond this is our imagination.. it takes a few to fuck to fuck shit up that's what emf is about.. now i realsie our actions will not be of ease for some people because they have to ask questions of their lifestyle and decadence.. i chose not have the heating on.. instead just put more clothes on, such actions can be considered to be selfish.. i'd sonner do this than see the continued every day rape of mother earth that is civilisation.. lets destroy civilisation before civilisation destroys any more of this earth and its inhabitants..

one love
mozaz

mozaz


Direct Action Does Make a Differencfe

22.11.2003 17:42

The 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle USA were the most successful in many years in terms of bringing together progressive groups and enlarging their ranks.

The Indymedia movement grew out of those protests, which were marked by violence, the main violence against humans coming from the Seattle police.

ELF is an excellent model for organization of a direct action group and their methods have proved to make news and inspire people.

Clayton Hallmark


what is non-violence?

23.11.2003 15:12

If non-violence is obedience then i am violent, The government does allow meaningless walkabouts.

If non-violence is respect for life then i am non-violent and the government does not allow (or does its best to stop) non-violent direct action.

translator


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