In the second half of our first hour, Griffin speaks on the history of the money system in the USA. As Griffin explains, the money system was a very hot topic in the US in 19th century and its nature was the topic not only of debate but of more violent struggles. He asserts that the US Civil War was not primarily about slavery, a topic which was 'largely manufactured' but primarily about the banking system. He details some of the political maneuverings on this topic up to the creation of the financial cartel known as the Federal Reserve.
In our second hour, we conclude Primordial Debt, chapter 3 of David Graeber's Debt, The First 5000 Years. Graeber reviews claims of governments that citizens owe a 'debt to society'. How much do we really 'owe', and to whom? He reviews sociological discourse about 'society' and notes that the meaning of 'society' has been usurped for many people by the nation state. He concludes by making the case that since states require markets and markets require states, the choice the two is a false dichotomy which serves to limit people's thinking about which economic arrangements are possible.