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Comments
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A bit vague
25.09.2009 09:51
Tod
The evidence has been examined
25.09.2009 11:56
That Antifa have come out and made a statement lends credibility to the expose of this devious couple. Matthew & Sarah can twist and turn all they like but their own stupidity has caught them out and we can only welcome that they are being ejected from the movements they tried to sell out.
CALIU
e-mail: centralaliu@gmail.com
how much evidence is enough evidence?
25.09.2009 12:15
also all the stuff his missus has been saying/spreading.
I guess alot of the posts in matt's defense may well be from him, but I'm genuinly suprised by the responce from people.
@
hang on...
25.09.2009 12:41
well if this is posted by an antifa spokesperson, and this goes on the antifa site... then s/he IS speaking for everyone in antifa...
I wonder if you are a troll, matt or just a numpty...
eh?
dont let one numpty discredit these claims
25.09.2009 13:04
Don't be fooled by the idiot doing more harm than good with his ego-trip.
This isn't a victory. This wasn't discovered by a crack team of highly trainned activists.
This was discovered through a series of slip-ups and mistakes made by Matt.
Far from being a victory this is a set-back, we need to move on and re-build around these people, as suggested by giving the pair a wide birth.
The lesson here is to get the evidence up and the claims verified before rumours and doubts set in.
anon
"I am antifa"
25.09.2009 13:09
Their is no way anyone can securely communicate the evidence over the internet.
As much as I assure you, your never going to be happy.
Think about it, and ask someone who you respect and trust who perhaps lives locally.
I am antifa and sparticus and someone who knows these things....
this is sparta
The evidence has been presented
25.09.2009 13:12
Are you saying the emails have been faked? If so, why would anyone do any of this?
Are you saying that the picture of Matthew Gibbons in an EDL t-shirt, which was lifted from his own facebook site is not genuine?
Are you saying that Sarah has not been ringing up other activists with a long litany of hysterical claims (Matt being stabbed, Matt having committed suicide, and so on) and threatening set the fascist on other activists?
What proof would you consider as enough? Me'thinks that none would ever satisfy you because you are nothing more than trolls with your own disruptive agendas.
This stuff is not being put out lightly, but because an investigation has occured and Gibbons & Larkin have been found very wanting.
Matthew & co, we challenge you to answer the above questions. Put up or shut up. Ultimately however, it does not matter what the trolls think - Matthew and Sarah have been exposed as the mendacious grasses they are, and those who are more than just keyboard trolls will now know not to work or trust them again. That is what matters.
trolls / Matthew in denial
Well then
25.09.2009 13:18
This whole episode stinks to high heaven. At least some people have been responsible enough to look into what happened and deal with it.
Mr McTroll
Good to see
25.09.2009 22:53
veg@n
Trolling
25.09.2009 23:27
http://www.nwn-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2166
Nazi Hunter
"Their is no way anyone can securely communicate the evidence over the internet.
30.09.2009 22:58
I assume you mean there is no way to "sign" your Indymedia posts in such a way that it can be proven to be from you? Well, in fact it can, using some kind of digital signing process such as that provided by PGP http://www.gnupg.org http://www.pgp.com
However, this is quite technical and tricky unless you are a computer whizkid, which is why Indymedia needs to have this kind of thing built-in (hint, hint) so it becomes invisible to the average user.
I think some people are missing the point about concerns over the legitimacy of these claims. They aren't attacking the posters personally, it is just an inherent risk of an anonymous medium. I could easily post some fake emails and fake information about any genuine Antifa person claiming they are a grass or whatever.
In this case though it seems that the photo of Gibbons in his EDL uniform is the "smoking gun" that marks it as a genuine expose. But without that piece it is something that is easily faked (though it is amazing what can be photoshopped, so even that isn't 100%). Unless someone with a well-known real identity or a consistently posting pseudonymous identity is prepared to sign evidence, it could be anything from any anonymous person.
If I speak to someone I know and respect who confirms these reports, I will believe it. If I hear something from anonymous people on the internet, I have to treat it with caution, since I have no way of distinguishing genuine information from trolling or snitch-jacketing.
anon
antifa
04.01.2010 13:43
steve
steve scum
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