Having spoken to many more people in the community about the space, there seems to be great enthusiasm for reclaiming it, making it our own and developing a use for this discarded land.
One resident's comment summed up the day: "It almost feels like '69 or '67 again."
More history here:
http://yorks-afed.org/2009/07/tesco-plans-defeated/
and
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2009/07/434009.html?c=on#c227899
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So the?
08.08.2009 18:55
Vangard of the people
Vanguard?
08.08.2009 19:39
AnarchoArchaeologist
However
09.08.2009 08:06
"there seems to be great enthusiasm for reclaiming it, making it our own and developing a use for this discarded land."
You dont directly claim responsibility, but you have failed to give proper note of the real victors, the local residents.Where are the pics of the posters put up by locals, their petitions, interviews with thier leaders and those who challenged Tescos in the local council chambers.
In short you have tried (unsucessfully) to claim a victory when all you did was camp on waste ground while the real fight went on around you.
shamefull
anon
Re: anon
09.08.2009 08:42
"Once again the plans to develop a TESCO in the Commonside area have been defeated by massive community opposition."
Sheffield AF includes people who live locally and have been a part of that opposition, but nowhere have they taken "credit" for it.
fuxaches
Us again..
09.08.2009 10:53
We would agree however you are not saying this is celebrating the defeat of Tescos it reads as you are saying it was The Anarchist are the reason for the victory, what if the community can lead and organise it self?
It there for right to say you are acting like The Vanguard, the very act you disagree with the likes of The SWP upon you are doing yourself s, perhaps you need to think there are no leaders for the free?
The former underclassrising know who you are and how you have moved into local campaigns to promote your politics, i remember No War but The Class War, Matilda and so it goes on, neither left right or fucking anarchist are the voice of those oppressed but there own voices, perhaps you need to put away the red and black flag and engage more.
M M Wallis (f k a underclassrising.net)
M M Wallis
Re: Underclass Rising
09.08.2009 11:56
Having said that, I don't feel the need to "engage" with local communities like some patronising social worker coming in from the outside, so maybe my perspective is somewhat different to yours.
fuxaches
The laughing Stock
10.08.2009 06:26
One
Non-issues
10.08.2009 10:35
I didn't know the working class spent that much time laughing at Sheffield AF. But if they are, good for them - as you say, there's a recession on, so we could all use a laugh nowadays.
"all you can do is play word games and semantics"
So if you say something that's not true, and someone else points out that it's obviously untrue, that counts as playing word games? Cool excuse bro, I'm definitely going to start using that one in future.
"get het up about stupid non issues"
I'm not the one getting pissed off by the fact that someone else had a barbecue here.
little a
Well done all
10.08.2009 18:26
All the posts attackting you are from the same person running underclassrising.net - a person (and there is only one person involved) who spends most his time slagging off other people whilst pretending to speak for "The Working Class" (note the capitals).
non-AF member
wrong but nothing new
10.08.2009 20:01
There are several people slagging off this overt bandwagoning, I posted twice, the second, my reply, was taken down for not following message and being a good boy.
I have never heard of underwhatever.com, but I will have a look, thanks for the recomendation. Please next time, ANON is a generic "I dont want to engage with you" not a real name.
anon
underclassrising.net
11.08.2009 09:06
As underclassriseing said
We used it to find different angles to express our views on things - i.e. politicians, preachers and police are lying, thieving bastards who look after themselves to the detriment of everyone else....and financiers are utter twats.
But the repetition just gets boring in the end, and doesn't solve anything.
Pity we can't think of (and haven't come across) a practical acceptable solution - bloody cataclysmic revolution doesn't seem likely or palatable at the moment, to us or anyone else (apart from the odd loony.)
So we will finish by saying;
1. We don't want to be governed, but we don't mind being 'truly represented' in a democratic system.
2. We also can't be bothered with the various 'isms' that seek to tell us how to live and think,we would rather work it out for ourselfs.
Much as has been said at this blatent bandwagon jumping, meanwhile ill be off to hug some trees and hope there will be some unrest as there are some people idd like to see on the streets.
M M Wallis:
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