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Yorkshire Fascism's Lowest Hour

West Yorkshire Antifa | 19.10.2008 13:47 | Anti-racism | Sheffield

October 18th in Leeds - BPP Cowards Hide Behind Massive Police Presence. Not a Single Fascist Leaflet Given Out.




Yesterday, Saturday October 18th, was the day that Leeds neo-Nazis, in the guise of the odious ‘British People’s Party’, promised to “take back the streets.” They had called a national mobilisation across all fascist party lines, to support their promised “anti- Black Rap music” demo. Monstrous Kate McDermody, the BPP’s Gruppenfuhrer, had even pretentiously quoted from Shakespeare’s Henry V on her vile racist blog, comparing the BPP’s leafleting exercise to the Battle of Agincourt!

What we saw in Leeds yesterday was the reality of the BPP’s attempt to “take back the streets”, a pitifully small ramshackle collection of ageing neo-Nazis, hiding behind a huge police presence, not even close to a member of the public, moaning half-pissed to each other for 45 minutes, then scuttling off like a nonce beneath a blanket.

From the beginning, Kate McDermody had sought the fullest possible police protection for the BPP’s sordid little outing, while simultaneously courting the less legal support of would-be fascist paramilitaries, whom she ended up betraying. The demo was originally announced for October 4th, but when Antifa announced a mobilisation, and the police said they could not guarantee the BPP’s safety, the date was quickly changed to October 18th – the same day as the London Anarchist Bookfair.

At the time the demo was announced, and over several weeks following, there was a great deal of bluster from the BPP, and on the neo-Nazi forums, about how they were going to “smash the Reds” and “take back the streets of Leeds.” As the date approached though, and the antifascist mobilisation gathered pace, it became clear that the BPP and their allies were shitting themselves with fear. Suddenly the fascist internet forums fell silent, all the threats and boasts ended, and all that was left were a few ‘apologies’ from the would-be ‘street warriors’ who could not make it.

While grovelling to the police and bowing to their every whim and request, McDermody had been boasting about trying to start a riot a spark off a “Racial Holy War”. After being warned about her behaviour, she threw them Leeds fascist Tony White, who was arrested for possession of racist material. A similar warning to Adrian Brookes caused the “Racial Volunteer Force” to withdraw, and they were later joined by the Big Mouth of the “British Freedom Fighters”, ‘Wigan Mike’. Previously McDermody’s No1 groupie, ‘Wigan Mike’ is now being openly derided by the BPP as “a wanker”.

By the time of the demo, in return for their protection, McDermody had agreed that she and her pitiful “band of brothers” would be penned in like sheep, would abandon their swastika banners, and would have only 2 leafleters. Now people give out leaflets and hold demos in Leeds all the time, they don’t all go sucking up to the cops to gain protection. Only a cowardly rabble of hypocritical fascist scum would do that.

Yesterday saw a huge police presence in Leeds city centre, with hundreds of cops drafted in to protect the fascist scum, who claim to despise them as “agents of ZOG” (Zionist Occupational Government.) Even the BPP’s RV point had police protection, for which cost McDermody handed them the names and details of all her “comrades”.

The police presence was nothing however compared to the huge number of antifascists who came onto the streets to oppose the BPP and their racist demo. While the BPP sat cowering in a locked pub, the space for their demo had been occupied by those who opposed it, and it took several hours for the cops to clear the way.

Eventually, almost the whole of Land’s Lane and the surrounding lanes and arcades were cleared, with two huge groups of antiracists held back at either end of the shopping arcade. HMV, the site of the BPP’s protest was closed, as were all the other shops on the street, and a sheep-pen barely larger than a phone box was erected in which to contain the brave fascists.

After many delays, and much ‘Dutch courage’, barely visible through and beyond the police lines, and at least 150m from the nearest antifascist or member of the public, came the BPP. They shuffled out of ‘The Ship’, where they had been told they were unwelcome, at least 2 hours late for their own demo, a pitiful collection of ageing neo-Nazis, hiding behind the cops every shambling step of the way. Stooping and slack-shouldered, dragging two children with them as ‘human shield’s, the ramshackle bunch sloped into their sheep-pen, to the massed cries of “Cowards!”, “Scum!”, and much else besides.

The BPP are claiming they managed to mobilise 21 people for their shabby event. Perhaps, to come up with this figure, they counted Frank Walsh’s shopping trolley half a dozen times, and included the two children the cowards had brought along, as well as a few cops. They could well have been penned into a phone box.

Taunted by counter-demonstrators on both sides, laughed at by the people of Leeds, the rag-tag BPP outfit huddled together and no doubt had a good moan about Rap music, immigration, ‘reds’, and the state of the world in general. Not a single fascist leaflet was given out, nor did anyone hear a word the idiots had to say. (They later abandoned their ‘National Congress’.)

It was not long before Kevin Watmough, the little fool who thinks he still runs the BPP, began packing their odd collection of flags into his tatty rucksack, and desperately consulting the cops about how he and his would-be ‘street warriors’ were going to escape. Anxious minutes passed, with Watmough and McDermody looking increasingly desperate. Then, under a heavy police escort, and a volley of abuse, they were rushed through a closed shopping precinct, to an awaiting taxi, driven by an Asian taxi driver. Hiding in the back, the BPP cowards, were driven out of town as far as Headingley train station.

Yesterday was Yorkshire fascism’s lowest point, they showed a level of unparalleled cowardice, and we, the people of Leeds, and our antifascist allies, showed them what a “return to the streets” will mean. That these spineless human rats were able to scurry into the daylight at all was only possible because of their shameless collaboration with the state, and the huge police presence that ensued. That their plans to bring racial hatred back onto the streets was unsuccessful is entirely because of an organised antifascist mobilisation, and the stalwart opposition of Leeds antiracists.

While the fascists struggled to fill a taxi with their pitiful numbers, the number of people willing to come out onto the streets to oppose them was fantastic. Saturday October 18th was another great day for antifascism in Leeds. Thanks and well done to everyone who attended and helped to ensure that neo-Nazis have no place on the streets of Leeds.

West Yorkshire Antifa
- Homepage: http://www.antifa.org.uk

Comments

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Yawn

19.10.2008 15:37

Big bloody deal, so hundreds of anti-fash had a day out wandering arouned the shops in Leeds, and the fash closed the shop they wanted to for a day losing it quids worth of trade.
Who acheived what they wanted to????

Micky


Haha the irony of brave redwatch aryans fleeing in a"paki"taxi,u couldnt make it

19.10.2008 16:43

up, no one wanted the local shops to closed, shame it seems it had to be done but saturday seems to have been a reasonably good day for demcocracy.

Rooinek


They're all alcoholics anyway

19.10.2008 17:57

The only reason that shower of shite the BPP could claim 21 on their shameful outing is because they were seeing double after being forced to remain in The Ship pub for so long; under police guard no less.

And another thing... HMV was not closed for the day, it was about an hour, giving the workers in there a chance to nip out for a spot of afternoon tea I imagine.

Angry of Armley


Rats are beautiful creatures

19.10.2008 19:16

Rats are beautiful and intelligent creatures - it's an insult to rats everywhere to liken them to neo nazi scum! (see image on leaflet)

ratty


Tit4Tat

19.10.2008 19:59

What happened in Little London later on was all your fault but then you were all cosy in bed so it mattered little to you as usual others cop for it and not the big antifascist heros.
Disgraceful.

Mac


Kev n' Kate's Comedy Hour

19.10.2008 20:08

Micky you twat don't try to gloss over or play down what happened with your cheap comments, I was there. We pushed past the police, occupied the space outside HMV for hours despite the police attempts to shift us, delayed your pathetic and laughable excuse for a demonstration for well over 2 hours and then when your pitiful band came out we abused and taunted them, laughed at them and drowned out their pitiful megaphone droning with chants, taunts and insults. We did more than 'shop', we laughed you and your scumbag mates right off the streets of Leeds, don't pretend otherwise. We encouraged the good people of Leeds to join in, which they did, in droves. Which means that not only are you now a laughing stock to anti-fasciscts (and your so-called comrades - I use the term lightly, real comrades don't grass on each othe to the law do they? - on the right) but the ordinary people of Leeds as well. The name 'British People's Party' will forever now be associated with the following phrases,

Shower of shit
Useless piss artists
Cowards who hide behind the police, kids and huge banners
Laughing stock
Inbred imbeciles who can't organise a demonstration

as well as grasses, nonces and alcoholics, glue sniffers and homosexual muggers.

And all that bollocks about there being 21 people there? 21 for a demonstration described in advance as the opening shot of a new Racial Holy War and compared to Agincourt is a piss poor turn out in by anyone's imagination and would be a most shameful admition if it were even true, I suggest the real figure would be about 10 - 15 and that's being fucking generous (although I will admit that there were a few actually physically hiding behind the banners you brought - which no-one read did they? - so I may not have counted them.) Shower of shit, you couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Kate Mc Dimwit declared this her opening shot of her great holy war, pity she forgot to mention she would be using a pea shooter isn't it?

I nearly pissed myself laughing when your "demonstration" and I use the term lightly, actually bothered to waddle, lurch and shuffle out from the police protection. You know I really didn't know what to think, part of me was fucking annoyed to have got up so early in the morning to make it to Leeds for what would turn out to be the most pitiful example of a demonstration since Father Ted and Father Dougle chained themselves to railings outside a cinema in an early episode of Father Ted, part of me was glad to have made it for the sheer amusement factor of it all, really, watching a collection of shabby inbreeds shuffle out, drone quietly into a microphone and then shuffle off again all under police protection without talking to a single member of the public or handing out any leaflets, especially after the Agincourt we had been promised was the comedy highlight of the year. I really can't decide as a result whether Mc Dimwit, Spazmough and the rest really are genuine, albeit thouroughly inept, fascists or sharp and skillful masters of post modern ironic humour.

Just go's to show that when the people really are united we cannot be defeated, unlike the shabby BPP who can be laughed right off the streets of Leeds.

Oh yeah, is 'Micky' a pseudonym for "Wigan Mike" and if so why are you using another name? Frightened of the taunts you'll get on here for shitting yer kex and not turning up?

I Hate The Fash


Smash ageism!

19.10.2008 20:10

Good job done by everyone in Leeds, and people who travelled there, in standing up to the BPP racists and harrying them off the streets in police-protected ignominy.

BUT what's this crap about "ageing" fascists? We're all ageing, so I presume you mean some of them were quite a bit older than you. Fascists are fascists, and it makes fuck all difference whether they're old, young or in between.

Would it have been OK for a bunch of young fascists to give out racist leaflets and abuse black and asian people? No. So "ageing" was just a gratuitous insult, then. Nowt wrong with insulting fascists, of course, but please think about the terms and effect of your insults first. Abuse their characters and disgusting racism, not their age.

I'M FED UP WITH THIS! How can you credibly oppose racism if you resort to casual ageist abuse, apparently without thought or realising the double standards involved. What effect do you think this has on other people? Don't you -or didn't you- have grandparents? Or older neighbours and friends?

Guess what, given reasonable luck and as long as capitalists can be prevented from destroying the planet or states from starting a nuclear war in the next 50-odd years, you'll be old one day too. The Yippies who reckoned everyone over 30 should be killed are in their mid-60s now. At least they were only kidding. It's not clear you are.

You wouldn't abuse the BPP for being white, would you? They are white, of course, but that's not the issue, is it? The ages of this putrid, cowardly grouplet aren't the issue either. By raising it as an issue, you detract from the necessity and importance of opposing all forms of racism, not to mention making a right arse of yourself in the process.

Much the same goes for abusing racists as "fat" and "ugly" on here recently. Me? I'm fat, ugly and old, so I suppose that makes me no better than the fash, does it? I'll get me coat then.

Stroppyoldgit


While we're on the subject

19.10.2008 20:51

DO you really think we're annoyed because some capiltalist global franchise lost an hour's trading?

No.

Any the whole point of your demo was not to cost HMV money but to ensure that HMV stopped selling Black Rap CD's, which, lets face it isn't going to happen.

Ever.

Although in the process Kate McDimwit - living up to that insult - did increase the profits of both HMV and Ice Cube by buying the CD, yeah, smart cookie that one isn't she? And as for Ice Cube well money couldn't buy the sort of advertising you're giving him now could it?

Hopefully the workers still got paid, which would be great. If not I'm sure they could always contact you for renumeration, or even take you to court.

And could you, or one of your disgusting ilk, confirm the rumour that McDimwit had to actually order the CD in especially? ha ha ha .

Could you also tell me exactly how many shoppers in Leeds you gave leaflets to? Or how many read your banner, or how many spoke to you regarding your demonstration (other than to take the piss out of you.)
Actually don't bother telling me because I know the answer was a big fat fuck all wasn't it?

Hmm?

I Hate The Fash


Not just taxi drivers - look here

19.10.2008 21:11

BPP protected by Asian Cop
BPP protected by Asian Cop

It was not just asian taxi drivers that the BPP needed to escape.

For several hours, before they came out they were holed up in 'The Ship' pub which they were forced to use as a bunker because it was too dangerous for them to step out.

The police closed the pub to the public.

Here is a pic of the outside of the pub with the BPP inside protected by an Asian police officer.

Red Star Belgrade


More lies from Clueless Kate

19.10.2008 21:41

From her blog:  http://www.bppwomen.org.uk/

"To the new members from the pub and those who rang the enquiry line and joined up - thank you for joining in the revolution!!"

The pub was closed to the public and in any event these scum were told they weren't welcome there, so I wonder who these new 'members' are? Figments of Kate's fetid inagination, I fear.

It's a poor do when you have to lie to get the attendance figures for your nationally-advertised demo up to 21. How many will you need for your revolution, Kate? 25? 30? Keep at it then, you might get there by the year 3000!

How good must it feel for these ethnically pure Aryan warriors to have been saved from the wrath of hundreds of anti-fascists by the cops (some Asian) and to have their miserable arses saved by being whisked away in taxis piloted by Asian drivers. Did anyone hear them saying that would be against their principles and they'd rather walk? No? Thought not.

I imagine they'll probably crawl back under their stones for a good while after the utter embarrassment of this fiasco. No wonder their 'security' and the other 'Aryan street warriors' backed out - The BPP are the Nazi party that other Nazis laugh at.

Concerned of Halton Moor


Disgrace

19.10.2008 21:47

Sadly I have to agree I viewed yesterdays charade and was not at all impressed especially seeing the distance kept between the demonstrators and the public who could get no where near. Victory what Victory? except a victory for the state in gathering their intel.
An embarrassment for all and a pointless shameful display.

h82agree


B.P.P. (Brown Pants Party)

19.10.2008 23:00


The BPP (Brown Pants Party) were totally humilated by there so called demo.

How many leaflets did they give out to the public? erm let me think ... erm .. ZERO.

A pathetic shambles, left running out of Leeds City, driven away by asian taxi drivers, protected by the police who struggled to hold back an angry crowd of 500 anti-fascists.

 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAWI6vfElbo

watch this video, where towards the end you can see a worried looking BPP (Brown Pants Party) pack their bags and run away.

Red Star Belgrade


No Platform?

20.10.2008 00:52

Hahaha, you mugs failed. So much for smashing the nazis off the streets, kind of looks like their sad little demo went ahead after all. Still, 21 people is more than I expected them to bring. I knew the muppets on here wouldn't do anything, except sit here typing yet more crap, after the event. An event that I was lead to believe you lot would stop.

muhahahahaha


Left wing, right wing?.............................you're both the f*cking same, mugs the lot of you.

LOL


Democracy is dead- long live Anarchy

20.10.2008 04:52

Damn good job to all those involved for keeping the fash from engaging in street politics again. But what is this thread i detect going through these posts about it being good for 'democracy', harmful to the workers, injurious to hmv etc? Isn't it about time, in light of the current economic and social crisis, to admit that democracy is dead? Why are people still clinging to the old dead albatrosses of democracy and socialism (and on the other side- fascism) when surely it is obvious that these are relics from the previous century? Democracy is dead- long live anarchy!

chimp23


"Lol" you really are a simpleton

20.10.2008 08:21

Both sides are not the same, one side promotes racism, homophobia, bigotry, supports a political system responsible for one of the worst outrages humanity has seen and would crush any worker's rights movements as soon as is possible, the other side is opposed to this.

Plus the counter demo was a resounding success. The fascists spoke to no-one, handed out no leaflets, and no-one could read their banners. In fact the ordinary people of Leeds were convinced by the counter demo of the apalling nature of the BPP, a resounding result in anyone's books.

This is set against a backdrop of the BPP claiming that their demo would start a new race war, that it would be like Agincourt and claiming hundreds would turn up and they would smash the reds off the street. instead they were delayed, had their protest time cut and were jeered off the streets by anti-fascists and the people of Leeds alike, and if hadn't been for the police and Kate Dermodious' licking of their backside's it would have been far worse for them.

A resounding success for the anti-fascists, a good day all round!

I Hate The Fash


Red Star Brigade and further comments

20.10.2008 08:31

"Brown Pants Party" - love it, nice one. I can only assume that the launderette's of Leeds will be one business that will definitly survive the credit crunch due to the amount of business coming their way this weekend from the far right.

We've all heard the saying "every cause needs its Martyrs" but I think Kate Mcdermodius has got it all arse about backwards. Being penned in by the police and subjected to a torrent of abuse from hundreds of anti-fascists/townspeople of Leeds does not a martyr make.

Also where are all the fascist "hardnuts" were boasting on here about being there last week?

Where's Wigan Mike now?
Where's Pino88 now?
Where's Tony White now? - oh yeah in the nick courtesy of his so-called "comrades"

The BPP - Brown Pants Party - have wel land truly slipped down the drain and are currently floating out to sea with the rest of the sewage.

I Hate The Fash


Ageing Nazis

20.10.2008 08:50

FAO 'Stroppyoldgit'

I'm nearly 50 myself mate, and I don't think it's 'ageist' to describe a group of middle-aged Nazis as 'ageing' (the oldest was 84.) The point I was making was that they are, for the most part, a group of bitter old men, fixated with the losing side in WW2, moaning about the music some younger people like to listen to. Hopefully they'll all be dead before too long and the world will be a better place without them.

OP


teflon kev

20.10.2008 11:30

no body really expected anything better from teflon kev and his umpalumpa they couldnt organise a quickie in a brothel.

the bpp are laughed at by other more serious groups which is evident by the lack of support from them. nobody wants to be linked with them maybe that is due to the FACT that kev has a habit of getting himself out of trouble at the cost of his so called comrades while he continues to make himself sound like hitler jnr all he ever does is to hide behind doors and sneak away at every chance he gets. the bpp are no more a threat to this country than andy pandy and looby lu

geoff


There should never be given any time to both sects of fascism

20.10.2008 11:45

There should never be given any time to both sects of fascism, be it right or left or proclaiming to be the voice of anarchism, the thugs of anarchism do not represent myself and the anarchism I believe in. Just the same as the thugs of the far right, you are not the majority voice of the working class, you’re just the same scum as The Middle Class, and there is a very real need to make you history.

There should never be given any time to both sects of fascism
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Re: Ageism

20.10.2008 14:39

"BUT what's this crap about "ageing" fascists? We're all ageing, so I presume you mean some of them were quite a bit older than you. Fascists are fascists, and it makes fuck all difference whether they're old, young or in between."

Actually it makes a lot of difference - the older they are, the sooner they'll die off.

If a view is held by a group of people ranging from 18 to 80 then it will be longer before that view disappears from society than if the group are all in their 70s and not gaining any new converts.


But then you old people do like having something to complain about don't you?

MonkeyBot


Police Atitude

20.10.2008 18:43

I asked a Police Officer what the BPP were protesting about and he said 'racism against white people'! Nice to know the police are so clued up.
Were the management of The Ship forced to harbour them? I would have loved to have been one of the chefs preparing the food for them...

Barely Present Party


Plods on the case as usual

20.10.2008 19:48

The copper I asked just said 'Haven't a clue mate' and laughed. Overtime's overtime, innit?

Hurry Up Harry


Errrrm, duhhhh

20.10.2008 20:07

Copper told my mate it was Leeds vs Millwall match which was true but not sure why there needed to be such a big pig presence in Leeds when the match was in fucking Millwall if it wasn't to just protect 21 pig arse licking wankers from getting a well deserved kicking.

Redskin


word on the street

21.10.2008 09:40

I have it from a reliable source that a couple of nazi nobs were giving jip to a black guy outside Barry the Bastard's on New Briggate on Saturday so he chinned them. nazis should understand that the people of Leeds, not just antifa, are more than willing to give them a hot welcome any day of the week. if they can just make themselves (more) easily recognizable, maybe sport hitler mousetaches and swastikas (in public, not in private - be proud of your prejudice) so that Joe Public can spot them at a distance. Quote - "I hate them." That's your word on the street. And we're talking vehement, active hatred here. Remember the Second World War? That's where we stuffed you bastards, and we'll stuff you every time you raise your ugly heads. Not just antifa - we're talking the British people.

word on the street


BPP are shit

21.10.2008 10:20

The above is great news, laughed off thestreets of Leeds and decked.

This video on youtube also shows exactly how shit their demo was, you can tell by the looks on their faces they know they've fucked it.

Plus check McDimwit at approx 3.46 pointing people out ot the cops. GRASS!

 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAWI6vfElbo

I Hate The Fash


to lol

21.10.2008 16:23

how is the bpp demo a victory?! what all 13 of them hiding behind police in an empty street?! im sure the people not on the empty street could hear them and recive leaflets and were made to feel proud as public spending money was being wasted on protecting 13 fascist's,closing a street off,closing a pub off ,feeding them,escorting them though an closed of shopping center,taxing them and genrally the police abusing the public.
yes,anouther victory for the bpp
im sure they've won plenty of people's hearts over now

roddes


for roddes

21.10.2008 16:45

The very fact that they were there on the street is a victory for the BPP, especially as it was you lot that said the BPP wouldn't be having their demo.

Do you not grasp that fact?

They were there on the streets, that's all there is to it.

LOL


Lol, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?

21.10.2008 19:30

No Lol, as you are well aware the facts are that the BPP intended to get HMV to stop selling black rap music, to be taken to court for selling it, and to spread as much of their vile propoganda to ordinary people of Leeds. The demo was also touted as a return to the BPP reclaiming the streets of Leeds, that they would take over the streets of Leeds, that the demo was an opening shot in a new 'racial holy war' and that it would be like Agincourt in some sort of way, fuck knows how.

The reality is that there were approx 13 sad, strange looking people, cowering behind the very police they had earlier dismissed as 'agents of zog' - you nazi's don't half use some weird sounding phrases, anyway - who were verbally abused by both anti-fascists and the ordinary people of Leeds, the very same people they were convinced they would win over with their demo, that is 2 hours after it was supposed to have started as the anti-fascists occupied the streets outside HMV despite the best, and at times violent - efforts of the police (now that's what I call really claiming the streets back) thus cutting short the time they had to protest, or attempt to protest. They handed out a grand total of no leaflets, spoke to a grand total of no people, no-one could here a word they were saying, HMV will continue to sell black rap music and hip hop of all varieties, with or without Kate Mc Dimwit's custom.

Now you may have heard that old saying if a tree falls in a forest but there is no-one there to here it does it make a sound? Well the same can be said for this 'demo.' No-one was there to hear what the Brown Pants Party had to say, so did they in fact have a demo? Or did they merely stand around looking very foolish?

Their was no 'racial holy war' no 'Agincourt' just a laughable bunch of imbeciles who were laughed at, drowned out by chants, intimidated, spat at and made fun of until they packed away their sad little banners and trundled away tails set firmly between legs and flanked by rows of police to be whisked away by taxi's driven driven by Asian drivers (thus removing the last barely remaining trace of credibility they may have had in the eyes of their fellow losers, I mean nazi's.) I mean, having to be rescued by the agents of zog AND Asian immigrants, how much more can one political party abandon and betray its ideals?

All in all a catastrophe, no lets not mince words, a fuck up. A grand scale fuck up. The fuck up to end all fuck ups. Not only did they fail to achieve any of their much boasted objective's but they did (or didn't) do so in front of a large crowd of jeering anti-fascists, the amassed local media of Leeds, a substantial section of the people of Leeds, the staff of HMV and surrounding shops and even the vast amount of police required ot prevent them getting what they really deserved.

Failing is one thing, failing so spectacularly in front of so many people who then proceed to laugh at you for it is a whole 'nother.
And in doing so they capitulated to the police and grassed up half of their supporters no doubt losing more face in front of their fellow nazi scum. You claim quite laughably that because they had their demo they somehow won. I can't help but think that if they hadn't had their demo or they had have been stopped by whatever means then the damage to themselves would have been even less. If the police had have banned it due it the threats from anti-fascists then they could have maybe claimed a moral victory and played the martyrs, the fact that it went ahead revealed to the world outside Kev Spazmough's sad little fantasy world exactly what a bunch of losers they are, and boy did they ever, and were ridiculed for it openly in the streets of Leeds and now on the internet.

So Lol, explain to me again this great triumph of the Brown Pants Party, cos unless I'm going blind I sure as fuck can't see it!


I Hate The Fash


Brown Pants Party was a complete failure

21.10.2008 21:40

LOL tries to pretend that the Brown Pants Party had a demo, but :

On any ordinary demo leaflets are given out to passers by, the demonstrators chat with interested people and placards and banners display slogans to inform members of the public what the demo is about - this is an ordinary demo.

None of this happened on the Brown Pants Party demo

No leaflets were given out, there was no public nearby, there was NO PLATFORM for the Brown Pants Party (BPP) to convey their stupid message to the public.

The BPP proved only 2 things, firsty that they are a sick nasty joke and secondly that they have brown pants, living up to their new name the Brown Pants Party

Red Star


Idiots

21.10.2008 22:15

Look retards, the fact is, the BPP were on the streets. They were on the very streets that you said they wouldn't be on.

So how is that a victory for you numpties?

As for HMV, well I can hardly see them quaking in their boots at the little BPP demo, but the fact still remains, the BPP were on YOUR streets.

LOL


Oh, LOL, how hard of understanding are you?

21.10.2008 22:37

Obviously the BPP were on our streets. They are on our streets every day, each time one of the worthless quarter-wits makes the journey to the local dole office or Wickes to buy Evo-Stik.

The real question, as you well know my little fascist troll friend, is did their being on the streets en masse - well, 11 of 'em anyway - have any effect? And the answer to that is a resounding YES! Of course it made a difference. It destroyed any semblance of credibility they may have had at a stroke and rendered them a laughing stock, not just amongst you and your Nazi friends but amongst the wider population of West Yorkshire (i.e. non- retards). So please feel free to keep saying the same thing over and over in the face of overwhelming reason but don't be surprised when people start laughing at you too.

Concerned of Halton Moor


Finally

21.10.2008 23:01

Wasn't hard to admit was it!!

The BPP, however small and pathetic looking, DID have a demo on the very streets that you said they wouldn't.

Who cares how many were there, the fact is they were there.

All your no platform bollocks is just that, bollocks.

You say they had no platform? Well I'm sure the loud-hailer would be classed as a platform, especially as the public could hear it.

But in your deluded little world, you won, despite the fact they were there and they WERE heard.

Get over it, you failed again.

LOL


effect, yes but maybe not the one you want.

22.10.2008 00:41

Concerned of Halton Moor. while it is true that the exhibition that was seen on saturday did show that maybe the BPP is disliked by everyone(ok i will be generous) some people on both left and right sides. So they did not attend, It does not show that everyone in Leeds(or yorkshire as you claim) hates what they stand for.
Obviously the Asian taxi drivers who drove them away from it werent to bothered by them.Though i would rather have walked and taken the chance of the scary 635 /Antifa getting me.I thought we were going to have a European style Antifa in Leeds. Wasnt that what they were told to expect? rioting, tear gas, baton charges etc.Fash being beaten to within an inch of their life.
You ask where was the RVF etc , where was ANTIFA?. A fence got knocked over.Scary, not exactly a riot.

Yeah it had an effect on the local population, but what do you think that was? Did they see the BPP and say oh those FASH are stopping us from going up that street etc.I think not as the BPP was way out their sight. They just saw loads of people, well very scruffy ,daft looking people shouting at the very bored Police.What effect do you think that had on the locals? I cant imagine it won the left more support than the demo got the right. The vast majority of Leeds whether black, brown or white is pretty apolitical and probably just saw a bunch of dafties(you lot on the left) stopping them from going to the pub/shop that is up the street you are blocking.

The BPP did their demo,they can portray it as heroic as they stood up a small group against the intimidation of the left. You lot can claim you stopped them handing out leaflets but their Demo still went ahead and they got what they really wanted.
Yes, Media coverage thanks to the left. Do you think they ever expected 100s of nazis there.No.They expected to put in for a controversial demo, get you lot all wound up.Then leave you to provide the media coverage.Which you did. Would 10 Nazis outside HMV got so much publicity if there wasnt 300 antis there.No they would have been ignored because the vast majority of people would take a leaflet, not read it and bin it.You were played.

Ha ha


THEY SHALL NOT PASS - BUT ALWAYS DO

22.10.2008 04:10

The BPP did exactly what they set out to do - get publicity. Thanks you Red mugs.

OSWALD M


Questions for anti fascists

22.10.2008 08:23

I saw your demo on the net. One thing struck me straight away, how come everyone is white on the anti BPP demo? Why do you think the ethnic minorities have no interest in getting involved with people such as yourself?

Most of all, how come the vast majority on the demo are middle class white students? I am sure there were some working class there, but be honest, it was a rich kid's demo.
How come nearly 100% of nationalist meetings in the UK, go ahead with no disruption from anti fascists?

Recent anti fascist record... failed to stop the RWB after months of bragging they would stop it, failed year after year to stop the BNP conference in Blackpool, after saying it would never go ahead(and at the last demo at Blackpool had a turnout of about sixty at the demo).
Now again, have failed to stop the BPP demo after bragging it would never go ahead?

Have got it all wrong, and anti fascism is going from strength to strength, with thousands of ethnic minorities, and thousands of the working class, flocking to the movement?

Clive


rights for whites then off home in an asian taxi

22.10.2008 08:48

It look's to me like nobody want's to cover the BPP's resounding success, why would that be? It became very clear that the BPP are even less organised than previously thought. I am puzzled by another thing though and that is the combat18 lack of attendance. Doesn't Kevin Watmough say he is combat18? Where were they then? Where were the RVF, where was the Covert Tactics? Where was Tony White? Where were any of them? They all stayed at home rather than face the humiliation of standing with the BPP? And after it all the BPP went home in taxis supplied by asian taxi drivers. You couldn't make it up LOL. My fashion sense is not top notch but I do know fake Stone Island wear when I see it and in one of their photo's one such garment can be clearly seen) the one with the old drunkard's stood next to the chap with the megaphone and they have their faces blanked out. Take a careful look and you will notice that the chap in the green jacket is actually wearing a girls jacket (check out the buttons). He has also taken the Stone Island logo and attached it to the lapel of his girls jacket. Why do that because if you are going to wear Stone Island at least wear the genuine article, not put together your own design, find a tatty old baseball cap and expect no one to notice LOL.

So what did we learn from this weekend?

The BPP are a joke
The BPP are better off staying on the internet where its safer for them and their carers
The BPP are old men and drunks
The BPP chaps wear girls clothes
The BPP are a magnet for paedophiles
The BPP can't tell the difference between 20 and 10
The BPP have no friends
The BPP claim to be militant hardcore, take two months to organise the worst demo in history then all go home in taxis driven by Muslims

Thank you BPP for giving everyone a right old laugh LOL

Horace


More lies from fascist trolls

22.10.2008 09:03

I'm not sure why you fascist trolls are being tolerated on Indymedia, but trying to make out that the BPP had some kind of victory on Saturday is despiccable and pathetic. You really don't have any sense of 'honour' or 'decency' do you?

1) They got out 11 'people' for their national demo, including 2 children.

2) They didn't hand out one single leaflet.

3) They were 150 yards from the nearest other person, nobody heard what they had to say, and we couldn't even read their placards.

4) They were only protected from a sound beating by over 200 cops, who Kate Dermody had grovelled and capitulated to for weeks.

5) After their pitiful 'demo' they had to scurry away like the cowardly filth they are.

6) Just like the trolls on here, they have lied about the days events ever since.

Just how pathetic are you scum? And as for the ethnic make-up of the counter-demo, anyone who was actually in Leeds on Saturday will know it was far from "all White".

Black n Red


Answers to the thick Fash Trolls who can't admit their 'demo' was a farce.

22.10.2008 09:18

There were many black and Asian people at the demo, you only saw a blurry video, I was in the middle of it, there were many non-white faces, of all ages, so you're wrong there. If you weren't there as you say you are you can't judge on the basis of a short blurry video on you tube.

We did No Platform the fash twats quite successfully. No-one could hear the loudspeaker from where I stood - right in front of the demo, so how you can say members of the public could is quite beyond me. The only possible explanation for that I can think of is that you are lying, blatantly. No-one got a leaflet and no-one could read their banners, possibly because the Brown Pants Party members holding them up/hiding behind them were shaking so much, they certainly didn't look too happy from where I was. From looking at a video on You Tube i cn quite clearly hear demonstrators taking the piss while Kev Twatmough mumbling into his megaphone is very indistinct. So by your own evidence you are hung!

So, if no-one heard their message, how can you say they weren't No Platrormed, a demo means getting your message across to the ordinary public, the ordinary public JOINED us in taunting them. We handed our leaflets out to the public, they could read our banners and hear what were were saying, but not what the Brown Pants Party were saying, quite a successful no platforming if you ask me. Just because they were there dopesn't mean they weren't successfully no patformed. ANd what little the public did see of them resulted in the public joining us and mocking the Brown Pants Party members. Which quite undermines your question about "scruffy protesters" doesn't it?

Hmm?

The fact is this so-called protest made the Brown Pants Party look utterly ridiculous in front of us, the public and the rest of the Fash. If anything it did more than no platformed them, it forever secured in the mind of all who saw it how utterly crap they Brown Pants Party and therefore the far right by proxy is.

It would have been great if the Fash had had a real kicking "with tear gas" etc. but with all of Kate McDimwit's bowing and scraping to "the agents of zog" and selling out of her comrades there were far too many police protecting her. But lets face facts, we didn't NEED to use violence, we didn't NEED to charge them etc. The level of resistance they put out was so pathetic all we had to do was laugh at them and take the piss. Occupying the street in front of HMV by force I might add put their demo back 2 hours and cut it laughably short as well.

And all your clinging desperatly to the fact that members of the Brown Pants Party stood in a deserted street talking quitly to themselves like the weirdo's they are while being laughed at by Anti-Fascists and the ordinary public alike won't change that. I know that must really hurt your Aryan white supremacist pride, the fact that a multiracial anti-fascist protest reduced your Aryan hardmen to an embarassment on the Streets of Leeds in full view of the public without even having to lift a finger, but that is just something you are going to have to take on the chin without throwing a tantrum and without trying to twist the facts to excuse this utter failure. We laughed at you, the ordinary people of Leeds laughed at you, the rest of the far right are ashamed of you.

And as if I needed any proof of this where are all the fash 'hardmen' who were boasting on here that they would be there eh? Where's Wigan Mike? Wheres Penis88? All hanging their heads in shame and embaressment.

I suggest you now go and do the same.

I Hate The Fash


Nah it wasn't "all White"

22.10.2008 09:51

He couldn't make it cos of Kate McDimwit's grassing to the police in order to save the Brown Pants Party from a kicking.

Now every time Kev Spazmough kisses her (what a disgusting thought) all he can taste is bacon, or pork sword!

I Hate The Fash


Problem is 'OSWALD M'

22.10.2008 10:00

That all the publicity this demo brought them made them look like a bunch of wankers. All the publicity in the world won't help your cause when all it does is reveal to a wider audience what a shower of shite you are.

No, thank YOU!

I Hate The Fash


Come on, please!

22.10.2008 10:28

Your have to have your head stuck in the sand, to fail not to notice the lack of ethnic minorities at any anti fascist demo. It's just a fact, that the vast majority of people at anti fascist demos, are white and middle class on the whole.

The majority of the young at anti fascist demos are rich kids.

Not to say there are no ethnic minorities or real working class people involved with these demos, just that they are very few in numbers compared to the rich kids.

Anti fascism has always been the playground of the white middle classes.

Clive


why we're not deleting all troll comments

22.10.2008 10:28

All of the comments you see in this argument from fash/fash sympathisers are being swiftly and thoroughly rebutted. Their desperate attempts to claim this piss poor excuse of a demo as a heroic action is making them seem all the more ridiculous. Give someone enough rope and they'll hang themselves and all that...

imcista


Clive you really are a wanker

22.10.2008 11:43

I am working class, there were mostly members of the working class at that demo, as well as many non-white attendees. As someone who wasn't here you really should keep your mouth shut before you make yourself look foolish. I've been on many anti-fascist demo's and stood shoulder to shoulder with trade unionists and members of non-white ethnic groups. Why would the middle classes demonstrate for a cause that reduces their power? Fucking tool Clive.

Or is it, as a fascist you are only capable of making sweeping gneralizations built on stereotypes?

I Hate The Fash


More than enough rope

22.10.2008 12:47

Fair comment IMCista.

When the BPP don't have 200 cops to hide behind Clive, you'll be able to tell them that they had the shit kicked out of them by a bunch of middle-class students.

You weren't there were you muppet? Nuff said.

Antifascist


Antifa doesn't give a fuck what you thick trolls think

22.10.2008 14:31

So the fash are all hard men, we've never been able to stop them, either here or at the RWB, yeah it was you fash that stopped us, not the hundreds of coppers that were there with their cctv, radios and the likes. Fuck off, there were fascists who stopped us from giving the BNP and the BPP a kicking but the states own fascists.

If you're all so fucking hard, why is it that there hasn't been any real attacks on any "reds" or anybody in years? Maybe you should start doing it, it would make it a lot fucking easier for us if you came to us instead of us having to track you lot down.

Fucking scum

Redskin


Anti fascists bottled it at RWB

22.10.2008 14:54

There was no police when ANTIFA got into the field next to the RWB camp site, and if they had wished they could have got onto the RWB site.
Instead, they had a look into the RWB, and lost their nerve, choosing to wait for the police to come and arrest them(this event is on video).

From an older anti fascist,... there are too many in today's anti fascism who are playing..''look at me mum I am a revolutionary''.

Pathetic, playing the hardmen.

Tory boy


Tory Twat

22.10.2008 15:32

Were you in Leeds this Saturday?
No

So shut the fuck up.

In both cases - the RWB and the Brown Pants Party non-demo in Leeds the police protected you from us, you know it we know it.

Tory Boy? What you doing supporting the fash anyway, I know there's little difference between you and the BNP in reality but I thought that prick Cameron had ordered you lot to stand against the BNP to win him more popularity and increase his chances of gaining more personal power, er I mean winning an election.

Fuck off back to your failing capitalist economy you little shit.

I Hate The Fash


clive you muppet

22.10.2008 15:44

the reason the majority of the people on the demo were white is because the majority of society is white! I know you like to portray us white working class as a minority that is oppressed by zionists and marxists but we're actually the majority. What's more unnerving for you must be the fact that we're the people that you puport to represent and yet we make up the majority of those who turn up to oppose you! This must make you feel pretty irrelevant!

Davos


Racialist electoral support

22.10.2008 16:28

The BNP stood a full slate of candidates again in Leeds last May, they received over 10% of votes cast.

So how can you say racists have no support?

From reports of BPP supporters amongst the anti-BPP demonstrators on Saturday (haven't you seen the photo's on Redwatch?) the majority of your people were students who after they get their degree will be working in some high-salaried job and just looking on their days as a 'revolutionary' as being a laugh they had at Uni'.

There's a stigma to being a White Racist at present but as times get harder and people begin to up their eyes it will be the left who will be the minority on the streets.

You could never dream of getting the electoral support the BNP enjoys at the moment. You see, asylum seekers are NOT welcome on any of the cities council estates as I'm sure you know. The 'nazis' are.

Concerned of Lands Lane


Mr hate the Fash

22.10.2008 20:17

Well i would hang my head in shame(and have been known to at the internet and non internet antics of some on the right). But you see i have no time for the BPP(misfits and weirdos) and to say i think the ones that were there were hardmen of the right is laughable.

Of course we all know that the only people who can fight are the ones on the left dont we. For decades they have soundly thrashed the right at every meet.The heroes of the red and black. Gimme a break, you are as bad as these fantasists of the BPP and their fellow travellers.
No one wins every time.Its swings and roundabouts. Yeah the BPP hid behind the cops,But over the years i have seen many a red do it as well.

What exactly the BPP thought they were going to achieve by this display is beyond me.They must have known what would happen including their dismal turnout and that the left would be pissing itself.

Fantasy number two, yeah we all know all the working class love immigrants and hate the Fash. Ha ha you are a laugh. Are you one of these born again Working class, grew up in a nice middle class house with mummy and daddy. But after a nice upbringing, fled the class oppression of your middle class upbringing(making sure mum and dad put you through uni first) to live among your real class in a working class area. If you gre up and lived in the schemes you would know some hate the fash, some hate the reds, some hate immigrants, some hate anyone who isnt from their square mile.But most are totally apathetic to politics of any type.

Ha Ha


For Monkeybot & the OP

23.10.2008 02:27

I said: "Fascists are fascists, and it makes fuck all difference whether they're old, young or in between."

Monkeybot said: "Actually it makes a lot of difference - the older they are, the sooner they'll die off.

If a view is held by a group of people ranging from 18 to 80 then it will be longer before that view disappears from society than if the group are all in their 70s and not gaining any new converts."

Doesn't work like that, MB. Depends on the influence, or potential for influence or inspiration of the old 'uns in question. OK, "inspiration" is a funny word to apply to fascists. Call it self-degradation, but you know what I mean. To take an example, several of my friends were, as young punky types 25-odd years ago, inspired by Albert Meltzer in his old age. I think they'd agree their politics is still influenced by his style of class-struggle anarchism, which had previously been what the OP callsl err..."ageing".

I hesitiate to mention Saturday's seedy wee straggle of racists in the same breath as Albert Meltzer, but they're unlikely to influence or inspire a new generation because they're unappealing losers and rancid bigots, NOT because they're old.

I did try to lighten the tone with "I'll get me coat then", but it gets oppressive and heavy again with;

"But then you old people do like having something to complain about don't you?"

(a) NO. I complain if I'm pissed off, not for fun, and NO, I don't like it.
(b) Pejorative stereotyping like this is shit and convinces me I have a point. It's the stock in trade of racists and cops, and shows them up for what they are. It's massively counter-productive for us to imitate it.

Would you have written that sentence with "you black people / Asians / women / whoever" in place of "you old people"?

Stroppyoldgit


Congratulations fash trolls

23.10.2008 07:23

While your trolling isn't very inventive or original , in terms of numbers your attendance here constitutes a great success. After all, you only need to have 11 people turn up to your nationally-advertised demo and this time next year you'll be in government.

The world quakes in it's collective boots at the threat of the Brown Pants Party - not.

Concerned of Halton Moor


To Ha ha oh...

23.10.2008 08:41

How wrong can one person be? The only thing in your post that was anywhere near correct was the fact that the BPP are shite. No I'm not middle class, my parents were working class, I'm working class and fucking proud of it, I grew up in a working class area and still live in one now. Trust a fascist to make sweeping and innacurate statements based on stereotypes to suit their own arguments. I saw and spoke to a lot of working class people on the demo, so again you are wrong. In fact I would say most were working class. Including the non-political people of Leeds who turned up to laugh at your mates the nazi's in the Brown Pants Party. Notice you say that on working class estates some support the far right, some suypport the "reds." Contradicts your original statement that all reds are middle class students slightly doesn't it, fucking idiot. Can't even string together an argument without contradicting yourself. Fool.

Oh and so some BNP councillor got 10% in a by-election? So where did the other 90% go, ha ha ha. Somehow I won't be worrying whether the BNP are going to sweep to power just yet. If ever. And if the best you can quote is 10% you have to admit that is laughable. Truly laughable. What about the others that get 2/3%? What about the ones that get elected and then don't bother turning up to meetings or defect to another party? Or even better string themselves up outside Indian takeaways like that prat Luke Smith? I somehow doubt that the majority of the working class will turn to the far right for answers to any problems (mostly because they don't hold any) regardless of how many middle class twats try to fool us into thinking its in our interests.

By the way, if you claim to hate the Brown Pants Party so much why are you on here supporting them and yet denying liking them? Know what I reckon? You are a Brown Pants Party member/supporter, and you just can't bear to admit how shit your demo was can you? Just can't admit us "reds" won. Deep in your heart though you know how shit the demo was, what an utter failure it was and so you distance yourself from involvement to fend off the piss taking you deserve.

Lets face it BNP or BPP no-one from the far right will ever get elected. Most people hate you and your racist, homophobic, sexist anti-working class policies. Anyone with any sense can see right through you so keep on dreaming (and then posting those dreams on here so we can rip the piss out of you.)

Keep the trolling coming you sad twat, I'm laughing at you now almost as much as I was laughing on Saturday.

I Hate The Fash


glad i gave you a laugh, heres another

23.10.2008 09:26

I am glad that i am amusing you, always nice to make someone happy.
It wasnt a sweeping statement, it was more a question. Now you have to admit(though i know you hate to admit anything that does not suit your sweeping generalisations .Cause you seem to make a lot about people who are not on the left) that my description actually is accurate about a lot of ,though of course not the majority of people who hang around the left. Why do you think Unis are full of Red groups, and dont give me all the tosh about working class Uni students( yes again some, but certainly not all)

I am not defending the BPP.If i was i would join them. They are a sad bunch of misfits in the whole who have no real political ideas. The have no policies i can see beyond the race issue. Same with the BNP, i would not like to see a BNP goverment because again where are their good political ideas? Also the BNP is a completley corrupt organisation.It does have good people who support it but the leadership etc. So you see i couldnt give a flying F about what results they do or dont get in election. I maybe would care if they stood for proper political ideals that would help the people of this country such as the renationalisation of the transport, energy, water and other essential services. The large corporations in this country being run for the benefit of the people of this country not some small elite. The building of social housing on council owned land not the sell off of that land to private developers. A fair system of taxation . A overhaul of the legal system in this country to remove the inequalities that exist in it. I could go on and on. As far as i am concerned no party on the Right in this country has a viable political strategy to achieve success.

Yeah those non political people may have been laughing at the BPP. But those Non Political people are the same ones who are probably laughing at Anarchists etc as they get batoned by cops at the G8. They dont care.A lot of them probably laughed at the BPP, then walked down the road saw a group of Muslims and muttered under their breath about Muslims. You see things in a very black and white simple way it seems.They laugh at BPP so they must support the ideals of the left, is that what you are saying?
I cant see how saying some people in schemes hate the Fash and some hate the Reds etc contradicts itself. In any large group of people you will have different views,Even inside groups of friends you have conflicting views.

Ha Ha

Ha Ha


Ha Ha you total twat

23.10.2008 11:10

You really are sad, there are working class kids at uni, obviously successive Govt.'s would like to stop them and have tried through reducing funding but a lot still get in, don't you give me that bollocks that everyone at uni is middle class, you'll only make yourself look even more deluded than you already are. Maybe there are some middle class kids supporting "red" groups, but not all, in fact not the majority, not when it comes to the left movement overall, no way near, that's just propoganda bollocked about by sad right wingers like you, and to be honest as far as middle calss members of "red" groups are concerned, as long as they're genuinly committed who gives a fuck, I'm white but I'll fight against racism, I'm straight but hate homophobia, so fucking what?

if you hate the right so much what are you doing supporting them, either you are a sad misfit with no life who resorts to trolling internet groups to feel important or you are a rightwinger but know you'll get ripped to shreds and are too scared to admit it?

Why are you here at all/ Why are you so determined to comment on this thread if you don't support the BNP/BPP? You claim to hate those wankers, so why are you here? You contradict yourself at every available turn. I notice you seem to support the BNP in your previous posts, bigging up their so called 10% of the vote victory, but when this is ridicuked you back away. I think its because you are a fash and you've been proved wrong earlier on in the thread with every single thing you've said and you're desperatly trying to "win" something, lying, contradicting yourself, denying your own political stand point and talking bollocks every step of the way. If you're not a fash cunt, and not a "red" what are you and what are you doing here?

Admit it, the BNP offer no solution to social problems, they will not win an election ever. Now run along and get a life, I've got stuff to do and if I don't stop laughing at you I'll never get it done. My sides are hurting already from your inability to hold a coherent argument and the bollocks you spin us on top of Saturday's Fash fiasco.



I Hate The Fash


Oh yeah...

23.10.2008 11:16

...before you do fuck off, can I just ask, are you LOL posting under another name, your posts are very similar in tone and word use. have you changed your name so you cna claim you're not a fash after all thearguments you made as LOL have been ripped apart. Not really succeeded have you? Even if you're not LOL your arguments are shit and you backpeddle time and time again.

Please, my ribs are hurting and I can't breathe with laughter.

And all because of you.

I Hate The Fash


I hate the fash is still talking bollocks I see

23.10.2008 19:37

PMSFL at you wankers, you're still talking out of your arses I see. The arses that your mummy's still wipe, I might add.

You just can't get over the fact, that the BPP were on the very streets you sanctimonious little tossers said they wouldn't be.

How many more times does it need to be said? You did not stop them having their demo, despite how small and pitiful their numbers were.



For the record, I post as LOL, and LOL only. Ask your fucking admin to check the ip you fucking prick. Why the fuck do I need another name to slag you cretins off?

You failed to stop their demo, just like you failed to stop the RWB. Why do you even bother?


Yes I keep saying you failed, because you did, but you arseholes seem to think you won.

fao: I hate the fash

Does your mummy know you post here, giving it large? Shouldn't you be doing your homework or something? I would have thought you'd need an early night, to get up for your paper round.



You say there has been no attacks from the right against the left, but where are the attacks from the left against the right? Fucking nowhere, as per fucking usual. Still, I bet you talk a good revolution in your little canteen at University.


LOL


LOL is Brown Pants Party

23.10.2008 20:38

LOL, who are you trying to kid.

I tell you what mate, keep posting on here, because every post you make just makes the Brown Pants Party (BPP) look even more stupid.

Everyone saw what a fuck-up the BPP (Brown Pants Party) made on the day and the video available for all to view here :  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAWI6vfElbo

10 of you, 600 of us - lets face it - you cocked up big time and made yourselfs look very stupid in the process.

And thanks to your pathetic efforts on the day, Kate and Kevin are now responsible for the NEW NAME of the BPP, now generally accepted on left and right:

the :

BROWN
PANTS
PARTY

Yes, that is the only lasting outcome of the demo on the 18th , everybody now thinks of the BPP as the Brown Pants Party - and to be honest I couldn't think of a better description.

BPP - Brown Pants Party - they will never get rid of that tag now - thanks to Kate McDimWits failed demo.

Ha Ha Ha.

Fuck off Nazis - you will never defeat the spirit of the Brave British Tommys that fought in WWII - there is nothing wrong with British Patriotism, we have a proud history of defeating the Nazis.

working class, anti-nazi, and proud.

and proud that both my grandfathers fought in WW2 to defeat the Nazis

The BPP and their kind will never get over the fact that the British Bulldog spirit, a working class spriit - is and always has been , anti Nazi.

3 words - Brown Pants Party

Red Star


BPP Twats

23.10.2008 22:52

If I bump into any of you lot your going to be crying like the little paedo scum you are.

Useless idiots.

Terry Blackham


Good luck with that

23.10.2008 23:12

> If I bump into any of you lot your going to be crying like the little paedo scum you are.

You'll have to find them first. They haven't stopped running yet, probably in Carlisle by now.

Concerned of Halton Moor


At the end of the day

23.10.2008 23:18

At the end of the day, the BPP were made to look very stupid indeed in front of a lot of people




Victory





British Tommies 1
Nazi Traitors :nil


I think that makes it 1-nil to us.

Oh, no, lets flick back through the history books and have a look, lets see if we can get the results to use as an aggregate score:


erm.....


wait a minute..............................



let me get a calculator out ...........................



Oh Yes

The Nazi's lose the war and their leader ends up shooting himself in the head in the middle of his shoddy bunker.......................


erm . . Kate - Kevin - YOUR TURN.

Red Star


deluded moi maybe but not hallucinating mr i hate

24.10.2008 00:30

Oh i maybe deluded but i do not hallucinate i hate the fash. I have never mentioned the BNPs 10% vote you did,So you say i am crowing about it or whatever but as anyone who reads back can see i didnt.If you can see me doing that mate you are hallucinating cause no one else can.

Yeah i come on here because i have a sad little life. I sit at home in front of my computer, putting plasters on my knuckles that i have dragged along the floor all day, occasionlly wiping my cro magon brow and worrying about my impotence and bed wetting. And you talk about stereotypes jesus,
You never think maybe i come on here on because(1) i do actually find some of the stuff on here interesting and (2) i like a bit of a debate so thought might find a few intelligent people on here who like a debate and not just childish insults..oh well you live and learn dont you.

Think i have explained my position on the BPP and the BNP. Yes you are right the BNP will never win power and if you read my last post i said it in that. Must be your hallucinations again.

No i am not ashamed to be on the right,If i was i wouldnt have been doing it for all these years, travelled all over Europe on demos and other stuff now would i? as for being ripped apart mate, cant say i feel that. You aint given any decent answers to what i said.

I didnt say that there were not Working class Students, i just said how many of those working class students are active in politics.On rereading it i did not word it the best but then i am a Fash of low intelligence and it is hard to type with these thuggish hands. Most the working class students i know are too busy studying, working to earn a few quid cause the state does not properly support them and going out for the occasional night out to be able to spend time on politics. I didnt say most were middle class.But the middle class one probably have more free time and probably have had more exposure to politics via parents/teachers at their middle class schools. As you say in the end up if they believe in what you believe it does not matter their backgrounds. What does matter is trying to portray your cause as the voice of the working class.That is just untrue .If you were why are you not in power? Obviously a large part of the voters dont like what you stand for. I am not saying the right is the voice of the working class either, well not yet anyway.Think i listed a few of my reasons in the last post why none will ever in my view achieve that without a large change in policies. But the Right on the whole has more chance. In Polls of ALL social classes of voters immigration comes out as a high concern.How will you win those people over to your open borders policies? If you talked to a lot of working class people ,which you must as you, your family and everyone you know is working class as you tell us over and over, you would know that a lot of them worry about the influx of unskilled labour as their kids are coming out of the poorly funded, state schools that are badly in need of a change of strategy with no qualifications or very few and are competing with this influx for jobs.How will you sell your pro immigration ideas to them and i dont only mean whites but 2nd and 3rd generation children of previous immigrants ,who suffer some of the lowest school grades and most unemployment.

Its strange isnt it that you on the left say us on the right believe in the politics of hate. When you obviously hate anything that does not conform to your closed views of things. you speak of freedom but try to stifle it for anyone who does not agree with you. You say the right stereotypes you but you stereotype the right and canot comprehend that people might not conform to the stereotypes you believe in about the right. You want open borders but have a closed mind.Sad.

Anyway i am away off to my stereotypical sad right wing perversions now, might even give the old pic of Adolf a snog tonight. You dont really know much about the right do you.

Nah i aint LOL.Get your admin to check the ip's its simple even a knuckle dragger like me can do it. yeah hope your ribs hurt, sure they will in the future.

Ha Ha


Down with this sort of thing....careful now (LOL/Ha ha)

24.10.2008 09:19

Oh dear oh dear oh dear, from arguing from the point of moderate right wingers we now see you in your real light don't we? You are "both," individually or as the same person I don't really care, members or supporters of the BROWN PANTS PARTY. The lamentable group of arseholes who made a laughing stock of themselves on Saturday in front of hundreds of Anti-Fascists and thousands of Leeds shoppers.

You really don't get it do you? The Brown Pants Party may have been on the streets of Leeds but no-one heard what they had to say, no-one read their banners no-one heard Kevin Twatmough dribbling into his loud speaker. The Anti-Fascists present and the good people of Leeds laughed at your pathetic little demo. You have embarassed the already laughable name of right wing politics even further than I personally ever though possible. And your pathetic, innacurate and downright shit attempts at trolling won't change the fact that the Brown Pants Party are laughable, that your demo was the worst demo since Father Ted and Dougal chained themselves to railings outside a cinema. You are merely heaping more scorn upon your already overloaded shoulders.

Either you are too stupid to see it or you are wilfully ignoring the fact that the Brown Pants Party made themselves look like total twats on Saturday (or bigger twats than we, AND other fash prats thought they were.)

Had the police have stopped your demo the results would have been less damaging than they have been. By "being on the streets" as you so naievely put it you set your shithole of a cause back in the eyes of the public, your so-called comrades as well as us.

Somehow I don't think a shabby group of weirdos quietly talking into a megaphone while hiding behind banners, police and kids is ever a great victory, not when they are repeatedly being taunted by hundreds of people. The words "shot", "foot" "yourself" "the" and "in" leap to mind, as do "total and utter fuck up."

Being on the street means fuck all when everybody else on the street outnumbers you by 30 - 60 or more to 1 and they are all laughing.

At you.

And all the crappy, childish, unwitty and desperate insults won't change a damn thing except to give a deeper insight into the mindset of the typical fash arsehole - sweeping innacurate statements, stereotypes, childish rage and tantrums.


You say you are different people but "both of you" have refuted my claims that you are the same person with the same point writen in similar language, "both of you" have chosen names that send the same message, "both of you" make very similar arguments and "both of you" seem to get really wound up by me suggesting you are the same person.

Ever heard of the "Two Faces of Eve?" Or "The Minds of Billy Milligan?" Just a suggestion like. I may start calling you Norman (as in Bates) soon.

Lets face it you Nutzi arsewit(s), your trolling is even more laughable than your pathetic attempt at a demonstration. And has resulted in me heaping even more humiliation on your stooping shoulders. Every time you put fingers (webbed more than likely) to keyboard I get to repeat the fact that your demo was shit, a washout and has made you, the Brown Pants Party, the laughing stock of Leeds, Fascism and non-middle of the road politics as a whole.

So please, keep 'em coming, I like a good laugh, and my ribs have recovered enough from yesterday's gigglefest enough for me to start afresh today.

Oh yeah, by the way, what's this about me having aching ribs if I ever meet you? Brave claims over the internet that. You don't know who I am, where I am, what I look like. Its all well and good to make such claims you can't back up isn't it? God that failure of a demo must have really stung your Aryan masterace pride musn't it? So much so you have to resort to childish comments, lies and empty threats. I would use the phrase deluded but anyone who read your first post can see that already, there's no point in pointing out the blindingly obvious is there?

So as I said, keep em coming, keep providing us all with some bloody good laughs in these dark days of recession, you're doing a public service you really are. Maybe you'll get a medal for it, not one for bravery, not after THAT demo of course, and hopefully for your sake not one of those cheap shitty things the BNP got a bollocking for selling like idiots. maybe a merit point or a soft rubber non dangerous toy to keep yourself amused in that little rubber room of yours.

All my love (and peals of mocking laughter that will ring on long after Saturday 18th October 2008, especially if you keep trolling as you do.)

Mr. Hate the Fash.

I Hate The Fash


There is an alternative................

24.10.2008 22:01

The qualifying factors are politics and class

Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse

They said because of racism they'd come out on the street

It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite

Bigotry and blindness, a Marxist con

Another clever trick to keep us all in line

Neat little labels to keep us all apart

To keep us all divided when the troubles start

Pogo on a Nazi, Spit upon a Jew

Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new

Left Wing violence, Right Wing violence all seems much the same

Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game

Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot

Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot

Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point

ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT

D@ddy


There is an alternative................

24.10.2008 22:01

The qualifying factors are politics and class

Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse

They said because of racism they'd come out on the street

It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite

Bigotry and blindness, a Marxist con

Another clever trick to keep us all in line

Neat little labels to keep us all apart

To keep us all divided when the troubles start

Pogo on a Nazi, Spit upon a Jew

Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new

Left Wing violence, Right Wing violence all seems much the same

Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game

Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot

Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot

Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point

ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT

D@ddy


@ Daddy

24.10.2008 23:31

LOL,

Thank you for copy/pasting some 30 year old lyrics from Crass - I remember them well.

If you can't see the point, then I bet you will realise the point very clearly when you are being lead away to the concentration camp.

Red Star Belgrade


Your powers of deduction amaze me Mr Fash.

25.10.2008 11:21

You are a veritable Mr Holmes for the 21st century are you not Mr Fash. You see through my dislike of the BPP and their non existant political policies to see that i am indeed the mastermind behind the BPP. Do you even read other peoples posts before you write your answers?

I do indeed know about billy milligan, dont think i am up to ten personalities yet.But then maybe you are another one of my personalities and just like Mr Milligan i dont know it. Ha ha if you really believe i am LOL you are more deluded than i though. Like i said check the ip's think that should settle that one.

Talking about delusions where do you get from me saying glad to hear about your sore ribs ,sure you will have many more to me saying that i am going to give you sore ribs when we meet by setting about you. Hmm i thought i gave you sore ribs by making you giggle, one was meaning i am sure you will get many more laughs out me. Your deductive powers must have failed you on that one Mr I hate Fash Holmes. Unlike some people i do not make threats on the neat, you just look silly in the end up when it doesnt come off like people on both left and right have done of recent.

Well we dont seem to be getting anywhere with this, so i am off to sit in my rubber cell with my grazed knuckle webbed hands and wait for another thread. Sure you will claim this as a victory Mr Fash but this one is getting a bit long and you still dont seem to have any answers or anything new to say.Think we are back where we started .

So till next time. Love to you Mr Fash. See you soon.

Ha Ha


"On the streets"??!!!

25.10.2008 17:15

Watmough was spotted buying a jar of curry sauce from Morrison's this afternoon (while hiding behind one of his 'human shields' as usual.) Does that mean he was "on the streets"? I think not!

George


Crass?

25.10.2008 17:21

'D@ddy', you boring thick twat, why are you subjecting us to more fucking dum crass lyrics? Piss off or write something original you brain-dead old groupie. It wasn't 'macho street fighters' who stopped the BPP last week, but hundreds of ordinary people who won't tolerate them on the streets of Leeds.

Crass had fuck all to say 30 years ago, and they've got even less to say now.

Mummy


Calm down Tarquin

25.10.2008 17:27

Deep breaths Tarquin - in.........and out............


Nursey
- Homepage: http://www.angermanage.co.uk/pdfs/keepyourcoolkit07.pdf


Yes Crass are crap but not as bad as the Brown Pants Party (BPP)

25.10.2008 23:39

Yes Crass are crap, I remember many a year when I was younger listening to Crass and thinking it was shit - there were many more better bands around at the time, but just because some idiot has copy/pasted their lyrics does not mean that the BPP have got away with it.

Yes, the BPP which stands for the "Brown Pants Party" had a completely humiliating demo, they were smashed and completely outnumbered by anti-fascists.

They fucked up - BIG TIME

Red Star Belgrade


Lol is losing it

27.10.2008 09:42

You seem to be getting quite wound up Lol, something the matter?

Oh yeah, you're still smarting from the failed Brown Pants Party demo.

And don't give me any crap about not supporting them, if you're not a Brown Pants Party supporter then what are you doing spending so much time supporting them, well I say supporting them, I really mean trying desperatly to save some face on their behalf after their total and utter fiasco of a demo (and I use that word loosely) last Saturday. If you're not a member or supporter of he Brown Pants Party then you're spending way to much time trolling a website thread that allegedly has no interest for you. No real powers of deduction needed to suss that, just open eyes. The only reason you won't admit it is because you are so ashamed ot be associateds with them in public (or on the internet) after last Saturday's fuck up of a dem as wel las the revelations about homosexual muggers, nonces, child batterers,alcoholism, grassing etc. in the ranks of the Brown Pants Party.

If you're not Brown Panted then you really need to get a life and quickly.

Seriously Lol you come across as, how do I put this diplomatically...mad as fuck!

"I do indeed know about billy milligan, dont think i am up to ten personalities yet.But then maybe you are another one of my personalities and just like Mr Milligan i dont know it. "

Need I say more?

Oh yeah, could you please decipher this,

"sure you will have many more to me saying that i am going to give you sore ribs when we meet by setting about you" please.

I don't speak arsewit and I'm afraid my powers of deduction have failed me this time with regards to understanding what the fuck you're gibbering on about, and I'm afraid

"one was meaning i am sure you will get many more laughs out me"

only muddies the waters further.

Seriously Lol/ha ha/Kevin Wotnolife or whoever you are I suggest you sit down somewhere peaceful and quiet and try to compose yourself. You've already made arses of yourselves with your shitty little demo last Saturday, and rather thasn saving face on here you're just making the Brown Pants Party look more of a bunch of knuckle dragging fuckwits with your spittle flecked diatribes.

Yep we are most certainly back where we started, still laughing at the Brown Pants Party and their failure of a demo.

Up yours,

Mr. Hate The Fash.

I Hate The Fash


Who's wound up 'Ihate the fash'?

27.10.2008 16:14

Get real, it wasn't me that failed to stop a shitty 21 person demo was it, it wasn't me that said I'm going to smash them off the streets.

Get over it, you failed. Yes their demo was pathetic, but pathetic as it was, you still never stopped it.

Muhahahahaha


Wound up? Over you inept morons? LMFAO

LOL


Stopped it?

27.10.2008 17:26

Only 11 of you (including 2 kids) because you fascists were shit-scared to come to Leeds. Not one single fascist leaflet given out. A group of sad wankers muttering to each other and hiding behind the cops with placards nobody could see. That isn't a demo. I think it's pretty obvious the BPP are finished.

Leeds AntiNazi


Well done

27.10.2008 17:46

Well done to the people of Leeds, who united under the banner of ant-racism, stopped the nazi BPP giving out a single leaflet.

Chaz C


BTW

28.10.2008 01:09

By the way, we won the war. We kicked you scum into the ditches you deserve. So whadda you say to that? Say what you want - we'll put you back there any day, any month, any year. You ain't British - you're cannon fodder.

BTW


You dont speak arsewit i am suprised after re reading your posts

28.10.2008 01:20

So you dont speak arsewit?hmm but i notice you can write it.Just shows the education system in this country is failing like i said earlier.
To make it clear to you, as if you did not know, i did not say that i would give you sore ribs by punching them.i said that i thought you had sore ribs by laughing at my comments and that i hoped you would be as amused by my comments in the future enough to have sore ribs again. I can spell it out phonetically as well for you if you want. It must be hard i know always being the slow kid in class Mr Fash but i hope you got that this time. I will remember to make things simpler for you in the future,

Hmm mad as fuck, maybe, it has been said before. You dont get a bit of sarcasm do you? you think i am lol . kev watmough and fuck knows who else. So all i was saying was that if you think i am that deluded that i am like billy milligan that had up to ten personalities. Personalities that carried out things without the knowledge of the others.Sometimes contary to the beliefs of his other personalities.Then maybe you are yet another one of the several personalities that you claim i am.That would fit with billy milligan or do you not really know about billy?

Come on Mr Fash stop avoiding tell me what is wrong with believing that the people, the real working people of this nation , should get a good deal? That we should overhaul the system of goverment so the people have a real voice, so that all the essential services are run for the people not for profit. So that any company with over 50 staff is controlled by the state in a management/worker co operative and the profits benefit all not just some shareholders. What is wrong with spending money at home rather than abroad to alleviate the poverty that exists here amongst our people. What is wrong with overhauling the judicial system so that crimes against the person are treated as more serious than those against property.So that every person in court has access to the same defence.So that pregnant women are no longer locked up and have to live in jail with their children. What is wrong with trying to make sure the people that deserve to go to prison go and the thousands that should not be there are dealt with more fairly. What is wrong with trying to return power and life to communities ,reversing what has happened in this country since the 1980s. What is wrong with making money available to communities via credit unions and micro financing rather than giving billions to the corrupt financial system that rewards failure.

You may not speak arse wit but you seem to want to keep writing it rather than debating these things and the future of the left and right in this country.

Ha ha


Ha ha @ Lol, Lol @ Ha ha

28.10.2008 10:03

I'm certainly not getting wound with up you "both" of you Kevin/Wigan Mike/Kate Dermody or whoever you are but are too ashamed to admit it fully knowing the pisstaking you'll get on here over your failure of a demo.

"One of you" mentioned that I am the slow kid in the class. Really? Cos a few posts back, according to you I was a middle class student being put through uni by my parents. I think you're getting more and more confused everytime you post. I take it because I'm not a student and I work instead that as a member of the working class I'm stupid? At least we're getting a good picture of what you on the far right think of the working classes now, and why we shouldn't support you. We're just gullible sheep, walking votes for you and your system?

So I'm either a middle class student or I'm thick? Q.E.D. I think.

However, on a serious note I really do seriously suggest you sit down somewhere nice and quiet, relax and let all the bad thoughts go before you have a heart attack or something. Clean the spittle and foam off your computer screen before you do so though.
I'm not wound up, in fact i'mk quite happy as one of your alter ego's posts has just handed me the most pleasurable opportunity to reiterate exactly how shit your demo was, how no-one read your leaflets, no-one heard you mumble pathetically into your megaphone (did you forget to switch it on, if you watch the very funny You Tube post taking the piss out of your shitty demo you can here the antifascists at the other end of the street yelling abuse, individual voices without artificial aid, and yet you can't hear Spazmough droning into the megaphone) no-one read your banners. The people of Leeds, the people who you were targeting for support laughed in your faces, HMV will not stop selling Hip Hop, Ganster Rap or whatever innacurate and ignorant umbrella term you wish to apply to a wide ranging style of music.

I bet if Ice Cube was to hear of this laughable attempt at a demo as well he'd laugh his arse off, that is while spending Kate McDimwit's money of course.

After the demo, during which you were heckled, drowned out and laughed at by anti fascists and the inhabitants of Leeds and had to be protected by the police, who's service's Kate McDimwit bought by agreeing to every last wim AND selling them Tony White you all scuttled away, after only 45 minutes that was, 2 hours late as well don't forget, and hadto be driven away by Asian Taxi drivers, I mean how many more of your ideals can you betray - Asian taxi drivers, grassing so-called comrades, arselicking the "agents of ZOG." And this is what we were led to believe would be the opening shot in a new racial holy war, comparable to Agincourt. Instead we got the most unholy farce of a demo on record. I have said before but I will gladly repeat it because I enjoy taunting you so much over it, if the demo had been cancelled by the police, or even smashed off the streets by anti-fascists you would have won some sort of sympathy vote, could have claimed some sort of martydom.
Instead you made yourself look utterly ridiculous and set your cause back. The Brown Pants Party will now forever be a focus for derision amongst anti-fascists, the people of Leeds and possibly even the rest of the Fash as well. They'll undoubtedly regard you as grasses and failures, bringing shame to your so-called politics.

Forever.

And would I want all the things "one of you" mentions? If the cost is racism, homophobia, fascism, the crushing of progressive workers movements/freedom/personal liberty and all the things we would lose under a fascist govt. (more so than most Govt.s) draconisn legal systems, crushing state censorships, and totalitarian rule then no, and neither would any right minded person.
I also would definitly not want to be part of a "country" that selfishly neglects the starving workers overseas either. None of that "I'm alright mate fuck you" attitude of the far right here. Especially as it was colonialistic greed on the part of Europeans that has caused most of these problems. I notice with some amusement that you fail to mention which specific party you actually support or are a member of. Is this to stop me and others pointing put the flaws in your party's bollocktics? Of which I will hazard a guess there are many. Too scared are we? Know you'll get the piss ripped out of you? Or, as I suspect, are you a Brown Pants Party member and therefore too ashamed to admit it publicly knowing full well the shit you'll get for it after that utter failure of a demo?

What say you sir"s"?

I Hate The Fash


Kate McDimwitty Susidised Ice-T

28.10.2008 16:37


Here's her receipt from HMV!

Still Laughing at the Bown Pants Party


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