Everyone knows about the danger: not the seemingly harmless bit of plastic in your wallet –but a massive and intrusive database that fundamentally changes the nature of UK Citizenship.
the ID card Bill
- application/pdf 253K
the "serious organized" crimes Bill
- application/pdf 1.0M
one of campaigners' logoes
The ID card and National identity register are not the Government's only tools. There are other supplementary Bills, like the Serious Organised Crime and Agency Bill.
If both bills are approved (that's why we have to act NOW), then it will be possible for anyone to be fingerprinted without consent.
You can find the Bill here, in whichever format you prefer:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/2005008.htm
And the list of amendments here (link to successive pages at the bottom of each):
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/amend/cmam008.htm
The legislation referred to in the article from the Independent is contained in the Serious Organised Crimes and Police bill, which is going to call for the construction of the Serious Organised Crimes Agency.
This is widely referred to as the UK version of the USAs FBI.
Now, this bill, in the follow quoted section, contains law that will make it possible for police to fingerprint anyone they cannot otherwise ID, even if they are not under arrest or anything;
108 Fingerprints
A constable may take a person’s fingerprints without the appropriate
consent if—
(a) the constable reasonably suspects that the person is committing
or attempting to commit an offence, or has committed or
attempted to commit an offence; and
(b) either of the two conditions mentioned in subsection (6B) is met.
(6B) The conditions are that—
(a) the name of the person is unknown to, and cannot be readily
ascertained by, the constable;
(b) the constable has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a
name furnished by the person as his name is his real name.
The bill, just before the part above, also allows the photographs or video clips to be taken of anyone contain within the above categories, not just by police, but also now by the army of CSOs that patrol our streets.
All of this new technology is available to the police now, because they have just recently completed the transition to the new TETRA digital radio system (instead of the older analogue radios), which allow for the transmission of data along side voice comms.
When viewed alongside the Identity card bill, this is a meaningful development, as the ID bill allows the government (the home secretary really) to allow anyone they choose to have access to the information contained within in - information which obviously includes, or will include eventually, the fingerprints and iris scan of everyone in the country.
The key thing to remember is that the prints taken on the road side will not be added to the database - it's only to check ID on the spot...
However, it is another candid display of the governments desire for a police state-like country where everybody has a file that is centrally stored, and anyone can be fingerprinted and the like on demand.
Sadly, it tells us more about their authoritarian tendencies to control and know, than about their wanting to defend out freedoms.
Join your Sheffield local campaign:
sheffield@no2id.net
Web page under construction.
Links:
http://www.no2id.net/
http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/
http://www.defy-id.org.uk/
http://www.riseup.net/
If both bills are approved (that's why we have to act NOW), then it will be possible for anyone to be fingerprinted without consent.
You can find the Bill here, in whichever format you prefer:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/2005008.htm And the list of amendments here (link to successive pages at the bottom of each):
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/amend/cmam008.htm The legislation referred to in the article from the Independent is contained in the Serious Organised Crimes and Police bill, which is going to call for the construction of the Serious Organised Crimes Agency.
This is widely referred to as the UK version of the USAs FBI.
Now, this bill, in the follow quoted section, contains law that will make it possible for police to fingerprint anyone they cannot otherwise ID, even if they are not under arrest or anything;
108 Fingerprints
A constable may take a person’s fingerprints without the appropriate
consent if—
(a) the constable reasonably suspects that the person is committing
or attempting to commit an offence, or has committed or
attempted to commit an offence; and
(b) either of the two conditions mentioned in subsection (6B) is met.
(6B) The conditions are that—
(a) the name of the person is unknown to, and cannot be readily
ascertained by, the constable;
(b) the constable has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a
name furnished by the person as his name is his real name.
The bill, just before the part above, also allows the photographs or video clips to be taken of anyone contain within the above categories, not just by police, but also now by the army of CSOs that patrol our streets.
All of this new technology is available to the police now, because they have just recently completed the transition to the new TETRA digital radio system (instead of the older analogue radios), which allow for the transmission of data along side voice comms.
When viewed alongside the Identity card bill, this is a meaningful development, as the ID bill allows the government (the home secretary really) to allow anyone they choose to have access to the information contained within in - information which obviously includes, or will include eventually, the fingerprints and iris scan of everyone in the country.
The key thing to remember is that the prints taken on the road side will not be added to the database - it's only to check ID on the spot...
However, it is another candid display of the governments desire for a police state-like country where everybody has a file that is centrally stored, and anyone can be fingerprinted and the like on demand.
Sadly, it tells us more about their authoritarian tendencies to control and know, than about their wanting to defend out freedoms.
Join your Sheffield local campaign:
sheffield@no2id.net Web page under construction.
Links:
http://www.no2id.net/ http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/ http://www.defy-id.org.uk/ http://www.riseup.net/ 
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MEETING:
29.01.2005 16:12
urbanparanoia are also doing a g8 page i.e. see
There is a meeting which is open to all based upon seeds for change format: This will take place from 6pm at new roots cafe, Burngreave Thursday Feb 10th 05: The G8 Justice and Home Affairs ministers are having a mini-summit in Sheffield, June 15th - 18th. Already groups across Sheffield are planning actions and events for this date: If you want to be part of the growing network of people who are not 4 the g8/id cards, desire to be part of an ad-hoc group of non organised non hierarchical people then join the urbanparanoia elist email:
ID cards are a "poll tax" upon all: Our time is not to be passive but active: also goto
0742:
urbanparanoia
ID cards handy.
30.01.2005 00:02
I envy all the common market citizens, who have ID cards to show my bank, with no apparent ill effects.
Simpleton
Dump MPs who voted it in.
31.01.2005 12:24
Voter
NOT A LOYALTY CARD
02.02.2005 20:11
This is not another "loyalty card". It is different from any other European ID card, not only in that it would contain Biometric information but also it would automatically be used to log and record your daily moves (bank transactions, medical records, your tax forms, your credit information... what you buy, what you read and where you travel to, your whole life in fact, everything in the same database for anybody to peep into). Like the idea?
Sheffielder
List of MPs who voted in favour of the Bio-Idcards Bill
09.02.2005 21:20
For info on which way MPs voted (or didn't) at Second Reading, check
out
All the Labour MPs from Sheffield voted for, of course :(
Richard Allan, the only MP to vote against (Lib Dem)
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Do you want your children to be puppets?
Mercilessly registered, recorded, scanned and tagged?
Do you want this country to turn into a Terror State, with a national identity register or database controlling their every move?
Do you want them to be treated like criminals and terrorists, and put under home arrest? For their own "good"?
Do you want their fingerprints taken, their irises scanned, and their faces "bio-measured"?
Say NooO!
ACT NOW...WE CAN MAKE IT CHANGE
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