i have no time for any oragnised religon be it islam or the swp etc.. what i do have a real issue with here is the fear of humans.. because if we fail to understand other people/ have a problem with some aspects of their thoughts we simply dismiss them.. now if we are going to change this world we are going to have to learn a little more tolerance and forgiveness.. this means re-learning how to love each other as a brother/sister and respecting them as humans.. not simply dismmising them because their point of view does not meet ours.. if this revolution is going to happen then there needs to be a revolution of the self.. an understanding that we are capitalism and doing something to change ourselves then who knows we might change this world.. but come on do you desire that? are your sectarian actions just fear of freedom fear of what you do not know or have a desire to know.. now ask yourself who is being prejudicial here? so the swp are setting up peace and justice? well good on them.. yes there are issues of this there is no doubt.. but then there are issues with the whole of the left/ religion / anarchism but do we simply dismiss those involved or see them as the humans they are?
in times like this we need to learn to love again
foo fighters..
for now
mozaz
in times like this we need to learn to love again
foo fighters..
for now
mozaz
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But the SWP...
24.07.2003 18:57
Just my 2 cents....
Thomas J
Missing the point
25.07.2003 08:39
Do you not see that Peace and Justice aren't abstract notions? They're bound up with what you actually DO? So the SWP have just stabbed people in the back, sh*tting on a load of principled activists like Steve Godward and Rumy Hasan in the name of "justice". Can you not see that that's a bit like shagging for virginity?
It's not, and never has been a bland debate about "working with Muslims".
Old Mutha Hubbard
As I understand it
25.07.2003 11:18
What's wrong with that?
Sonic
oh erm i thought i had to reply
25.07.2003 12:02
mozaz
mozaz
but Sonic..
25.07.2003 12:52
kurious
The New Democracy
25.07.2003 15:38
**Is it "democratic" to warn an independent socialist activist that, should he *dare* to participate in a Trade Council sponsored "teach in" which your own organisation doesn't *control*, he will be challenged and removed from any position of influence? Tony Soprano would love it, no doubt. But is he a model for democracy?
**Is it "democratic" to encourage all of your mates to join a political organisation, with which they have had no prior involvement or connection, in the week before an important vote, FOR NO OTHER REASON than to remove said independent activist from office and, thereby, effectively castrate the organisation?
**Is it "democratic" to eyeball and nudge any members of your own organisation still principled enough to feel uncomfortable with what's happening and trying to abstain, thereby making it apparent that they'll be getting grief should they fail to toe the line?
**Is it "democratic" to similarly oust EVERY OTHER holder of political office with a tendency to show disturbing signs of autonomy, replacing them with people who appear to have NO analysis, and who can, therefore, be manipulated to follow your own party line?
**Is it "democratic" to shit all over dissent as an abstract principle, smearing anyone who differs your (or, to be more precise, John Rees') viewpoint as "Islamophobic"?
If your answer to any of the above is "yes", congratulations! You may find ahome in the Socialist Workers' Party.
If not, welcome to sanity.
Old Mutha Hubbard
kontrite kurious
25.07.2003 15:50
Sorry folks. Will desist.
kurious
i aint got a problem i just wanna clear something up
28.07.2003 15:37
The strugle must start at the grass roots and not with an un-democratic party "vanguard" who style themselves on another undemocratic party making an alliance with another un-democratic organisation.
Don't give up the struggle,
pro-struggle